Sunday, June 4, 2006

Monthly Holy Hour for Vocations at Grotto

Someone please remind me about the holy Hour that takes place at Grotto the first Sunday of each month after the noon Mass. I missed half of it again!!!

We may not have had a procession, but I managed to get a picture during the holy Hour for vocations. Pictured is a Father of the Holy Cross. Hopefully, he did not mind me using flash just this time since it was outside of Mass. It would have been impossible otherwise as I have no cable snapper for this new camera.


Deum in secula laudemus said...

WHHAAAA!!! Who does this? Because this is awesome! Please help me out here. I am astonished at what your parish is doing with the 1970 missal. It seems there is a lot of truely correct things taking place here. How did the priest(s) introduce Latin, good doctrine, and facing the more correct direction (at least according to Pope Benedict XVI) back into the mass at your parish (I also notice that your congregation is quite full...should I be suprised?). How do you reintroduce these things without killing the parish?


Diane said...

Hi Vale,

Your emotion expressed is emotion I experienced for the first three months I was there. I'm still pinching myself and I believe many others are too.

I've only been there a full year and do not have the full history. But, it seems I need to start piecing one together. We actually have a parish historian so I'll have to talk to her and get some brief answers.

We have more than one parish in the area trying to make a go of it because of good leadership in the priests. Not everyone wants the happy-clappy, touchy-feely mass.

I find myself far more able to connect with God, and ultimately with my neighbor, when I'm allowed to look inward. This happens in the silence of a stilled Church, only broken with solemn prayers, Gregorian Chant and sacred polyphony.

Some cannot grasp that unity happens when we worship God fully in the Mass, not celebrate each other. Imagine that lack of physical and eye contact could actually bring us closer to God and neighbor! It's a dimension not understood by most because it is not on the human level.

I had no idea this liturgical oasis was just 12 minutes from my home. Stay tuned - its very possible this will be coming to a parish near you. I'm working on something to help pinpoint parishes like mine so we can support them, and take advantage of what they offer in terms of being able to worship.

Diane said...

I should add that this is one of the reasons we need to pray for priests and bishops, especially those who trouble us the most.

Then, we must absolutely have faith and hope in the grace of God.

It won't happen in our time - it will happen in God's time, when He wills it. In the meanwhile, pray and believe!

Deum in secula laudemus said...

That would be exteremely helpful! Also if you could talk to the priests as well (if they have time) to see how they pulled this off...because I would like to try and suggest a few of these things around my home parish as well (I have a willing priest, but a congregation that is in a liturgical rut). By the way, "vale" is a Latin term for "Goodbye", literally, "Be Strong." I think you thought it was my name.

Diane said...

You are right - I did think you were going by the name "Vale". You see all kinds of things these days. How may I address you since the "Deum in secula laudamus" is so long?

I can tell you that from what I've heard Fr. Perrone started slow. The previous pastor, Msgr Sawher actually had one Latin Mass each month. When Fr. Perrone became pastor, he took it to one Mass weekly. I'm not sure at what point he turned ad orientem, but he preached about it and told parishioners they would one day see him come out and face east, using the high altar. It was all through catechesis from the pulpit and in the bulletin first, then gradually incrementing it in. It makes no sense to do any of this without the catechesis.

He brought a mens schola, and part of the choir, from his previous parish. Or, should I say that they followed him to his new assignment. I can understand why because if he is shipped anyplace within driving distance, I'm there with him. There are no music programs any place in metro Detroit, or southeast Michigan that I know of, like what we have.

Is your parish of the older architecture and does it still have a high altar? Or, is it the more rounded "worship space" kind? - the new website I am building will address many of these issues that your priest may find of interest. I hope to show that there are parishes doing this and it is, in fact, the Novus Ordo, not the Tridentine.

It's cultural too. For example, those who are at Grotto are mostly from outside geographical boundaries. The Archdiocese of Detroit opened up the limits years ago so that urban parishes could benefit from membership like mine, rather than close them. My geo-parish is right next to my house, but I am now a parishioner at Grotto. Being in the choir, active almost daily in various things there, it was only fair to support her financially and under headcount. So, those who are at Grotto want to be there. She draws people who are into the more traditional form of worship.

There are considerable young people too, and many, many large families. I mean, very large families and they hang out on Sundays from early morning until early afternoon. We have BBQ'd hot dogs, hamburgers, sausages, sweets, and all kinds of things to eat so people don't have to run out. Even in the winter we have these things. There are talks several times a month in the school lounge (no longer used as an official school as it was closed years ago, but used by homeschooler community once weekly for catechesis and phys ed/social time). Grotto has a large collection of people who are thirsty for knowledge about the faith and the priests fill that thirst regularly with Sunday afternoon offerings. We've had a little Latin Lite, many "days of recollection", a moral theology class given by a visiting theologian (all lite - of course, but solid).

You won't find anything less than solid Catholic stuff here. No new age or namby-pamby stuff. Looking for social justice? Join us at the abortion clinic where Helpers of God's Precious Infants prays regularly for babies, and their parents.

One more question for my own benefit. What age group would you classify yourself, or at least tell me if you were born and raised before, after, or during Vatican II. I see many younger people attracted to what we have at Grotto. Hopefully, the bishops are looking at it in a positive way, especially since there is strong vocation-potential coming from parishes like mine.

Deum in secula laudemus said...

Well, for starters let me give a little info about myself so I'm not such a mystery figure. I'm actually an early 20 something yr old, so definitely post-Vatican II. You could say I'm involved in the Church. I kind of belong to two parishes. One is the main parish, and mine is the "mission" parish attached to it. I do stuff at both parishes, but I'll identify myself with the mission parish.

My parish is uniquie in the sense that it is one of the few churches that I know of where a High Altar has been INSTALLED in the past 3 years. Further, the second altar is a mobile altar, so it can easily do a disappearing act. This was a restoration projected done on the church to fix a reck-a-vation (as opposed to a renovation). The main parish...well that's an interesting story. That'll probably be fixed in the coming years.

Just call me "Frater" for the time being.


Diane said...

Well, you affirmed my suspicion - another "young fogey" who likes the Mass solemn and reverent. I'll classify myself as a middle-aged fogey who likes the Mass solemn and reverent (just turned 44 Sunday on Pentecost!!!).

That is really great news about the high altar. What a blessing. Now we have to get Father using it. But, could he find himself shipped off to a nursing home chaplaincy if he simply starts celebrating ad orientem?

I'm afraid that is the concern many may have. Priests need the freedom to act as their conscience is telling them in this regard. Who is to say it is not the Holy Spirit prompting this interest of ours?

Moneybags said...

This is a beautiful picture! I wish all of our churches looked this this again. I want to see incense back. I want to hear Latin. I've never been to a Tridentine Mass but feel such a calling to see one. I am discerning whether to join a religious order like FSSP just to celebrate the Mass in Latin.

Diane said...

Ah, but Moneybags, there are Latin friendly orders which celebrate highly reverent Novus Ordo Masses. The priest you see in the picture is from the Order of Canons Regular of the Holy Cross. They are authorized to celebrate the Tridentine, and do so at nearby St. Josephat in Detroit, which has the Indult. But, they also celebrate the Latin Novus Ordo at my parish regularly.

Granted, you would go to Brazil for formation, and likely be all over the world as your assignment would rotate. But, I believe this order will finally be building a monastery somewhere locally as they were given permission to do so at Christmas time. I don't know if it will eventually include a seminary.

I believe there are other orders - like, the Society of St. John Cantius in Chicago which also celebrate both Tridentine and Latin Novus Ordo. Write to them and ask about the order and formation process. Perhaps if you are not interested in the international missionary aspect involved with the Fathers of the Holy Cross, this order may provide a similar experience while keeping you in the states. You might need to stretch out your Haloscreen window to see the full link.

Here is the Parish and its culture.

Here is the formation page for the order, which sounds like a winner to me:

The FSSP is nice, but I don't think they celebrate the Novus Ordo at all right now. Thus you would be limited. I thought I read about plans for them to do the N.O. too, but I'm not sure.

The other option is to move to a diocese like Lincoln Nebraska where you would fall under a bishop like Bruskewitz. I wouldn't be surprised if there were parishes there that celebrate a Latin Novus Ordo.

I'll pray for you as you discern.

Diane said...

As you may have found, the Opus Angelorum link belongs with the paragraph above the one it is with.

If you hadn't previously discovered the Society of St. John Cantius, I can promise you are in for a ride when you get to the parish website. Enjoy!

Moneybags said...

Thank you for the links! Like I said in a comment on another post on your blog, I'm very interested in the Society of St. John Cantius. I want to offer the Tridentine Mass, but I also would like to have the option to say the Novus Ordo in a very reverent manner. I'm thinking I'm going to write to the Society of St. John Cantius and go from there.

I live near Chicago so I will try and visit that parish.

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