Wednesday, October 7, 2009

Reuters - Cardinal Puljic: Awaiting New Directive from Holy See on Medjugorje Soon

This is coming from Adam Tanner at a Reuters blog. Reuters interviewed Vinko Cardinal Puljic - the head of the BiH Bishop's Conference about Medjugorje and the Holy See's position.

The headline of the Reuter's blogpost is: Vatican ruling on disputed Medjugorje shrine expected soon (do read this in it's entirety - I am home briefly for lunch and cannot cover it all).

However, in the base of the article what we get goes deeper than the "shrine" (it is not an official shrine and the parish was ordered - again - in June to remove any mention of "shrine" from it's parish website, but this has still not been done). This part of the headline is sure to be exploited by Medjugorje promoters.

I took my heading from the Cardinal's own words as published in English.  In part, the Reuters blogpost reads:

After observing events sceptically for many years, the Vatican may soon issue firmer guidance for Catholics on the claim that the mother of Jesus has been visiting the Balkans, Cardinal Vinko Puljic, head of the bishops’ conference in Bosnia, told Reuters in an interview on Tuesday. That guidance, if it clearly expresses the scepticism the official Church has long shown towards the Medjugorje phenomenon, could deal a serious blow to a site some Catholics see as a “new Lourdes.”
“We are now awaiting a new directive on this issue,” said Puljic, the Sarajevo archbishop who survived the city’s long wartime siege in the 1990s. “I don’t think we must wait for a long time, I think it will be this year, but that is not clear… I am going to Rome in November and we must discuss this.”
Official Church scepticsm about Medjugorje has become more public in recent months. In June, Bishop Ratko Peric of Mostar, the nearest city in Bosnia, warned Catholics against uncritical belief in Medjugorje and issued a series of restrictions on the parish. “Brothers and sisters, let us not act as if these ‘apparitions’ were recognised and worthy of faith,” he said in a sermon.
I don't think we can look at any one part of this in isolation. Rather, it needs to be viewed in the context of recent events, including a series of notifications and statements coming out of the Diocese of Mostar Duvno (see list below).

I received word back from that diocese early today that they will soon make available official translations into english and german of the 3-part statement of September 26th by Bishop Peric found in Italian on the diocesan homepage.  Richard Chonak provided us with an unofficial translation of In the Context of Medjugorje - Part 1, and the two letters found in Part 3

Like any thing being investigated, discernment of apparitions is most interested with what happened in the early days, weeks and years. Details can take many years to come out, and even more to piece together.  In 2008, news surfaced that fra  Tomslav Vlasic was disciplined by the Holy See for “for the diffusion of dubious doctrine, manipulation of consciences, suspicious mysticism, disobedience towards legitimately issued orders and charges contra sextum [against the sixth commandment].”   In part 1 of his recently released statement, Bishop Peric chides the media for attempting to distance Tomislav Vlasic from Medjugorje. 

For a complete list of statements at the Diocese of Mostar website, click here.  To be added yet is the three-part statement released in Italian on the homepage on September 26th, 2009.

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12 Comments:

Tominellay said...

This is interesting.The story says "the Vatican may soon issue firmer guidance...", but the direct quote from Cdl. Puljic, as you noted, is "We are now awaiting a new directive on this issue."

My prediction is that the CDF will make some disposition in the case of Fr. Jozo Zovko first, and then direct the Bishops Conference of BiH to make a new judgement on the alleged apparitions of Medjugorje. The bishops will be directed to take into account the activities of ex-Fr. Tomislav Vlasic and the late Fr. Slavko Barbaric, as described in the "Sluzbeni Vjesnik, no. 2/2009" (the 3-part statement of September 26), and whatever case history that will ensue from the Vatican investigation of Fr. Jozo's activities. In my opinion the Vatican investigations will give the four-member Bishops Conference enough information properly to conclude the matter with a "constat de non supernaturalitate" judgement. Again, just my opinion, just a prediction.

Anonymous said...

meCurious,

I am aware of the case against Fr Tomislav Vlasic, and the fact that he was defrocked by order of the Holy Father. I wasen't aware there is also a case against fr. Jozo Zovko. Could you please explain what the case against him is?

Diane M. Korzeniewski, OCDS said...

The case against fra Jozo Zovko?

Where to begin?

This was sent to me by Mark Waterinckx who pieced it together earlier in the year. Note that there are protocol numbers and other references next to each of these so they can be verified.

I'll probably have to break it up:

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The Papal War against Medjugorje: Jozo Zovko exiled

1° Suspension: On 23-8-1989 (letter nr. 622/89) Jozo has been suspended by Mostar-bishop Zanic, because of serious accusations.

Jozo refuses to obey and appeals to the Congregation for the Evangelization of the Peoples in Rome.

This Congregation confirms on 15-2-1990 (letter nr. 5673/89) the suspension of Jozo by Mgr. Zanic, and asks that Jozo should be exiled to a convent, far from Medjugorje.

Jozo refuses.

On 25-7-1991 (letter nr. 377/91) the Franciscan provincial of Hercegovina proposes to the bishop of Mostar to transfer Jozo to the convent of Siroki Brijeg, only 30 km from Medjugorje.

The bishops responds on 30-7-1991 (letter nr. 557/91), refusing this proposal.

On 2-9-1991 (letter nr. 649/91) bishop Zanic complains that Jozo, notwithstanding his suspension, continues to administer the Sacraments in Siroki Brijeg.

When Mgr. Peric is installed as the new bishop of Mostar in August 1993, Jozo is still committing insubordination.

On 11-11-1993 the Congregation for the Evangelization of the Peoples writes to the Minister-General of the Franciscan order that Jozo and 3 other Franciscans are suspended, but that they continue practicing their priestly functions in the vicinity of Medjugorje.

On 29-12-1993 the Franciscan Province informs bishop Peric by letter nr. 380/93 that Jozo is appointed as the parish administrator in Siroki Brijeg.

On 4-2-1994 the bishop by letter nr.69/94 expresses his consternation about this.

On 12-6-1994 the bishop makes a canonical visit to Siroki Brijeg. Jozo confirms him that, notwithstanding his suspension, he still hears confessions.

2° Suspension: On 14-6-1994 the bishop notifies by letter nr. 423/1994, that Jozo is automatically suspended according to canon 1378 par. 2.

On 15-6-1994 the bishop also notifies Jozo’s superior of this by letter nr. 423/1994-ad.

Jozo did not pay any attention to this letter and continues to be disobedient.

During his ad limina-visit to Rome, the bishop by letter nr. 1203/98 of 6-11-1998, informs the Holy See of this situation.

Without mentioning the irregular status of Jozo, in 2002 the Provincial writes that ’those who accept Medjugorje, consider Jozo as a devote priest, and that he, on invitation, gives spiritual retreats on the island of Jakljan and in Medjugorje.’

3° Suspension: On 26-6-2004 in a long letter nr. 843/2004, bishop Peric suspends Jozo for the third time because of his persistent disobedience. He invites him to the bishop’s office in Mostar in order to regularize his priestly status. In the diocesan Curia the bishop wants to show him all documents related to his illegal pastoral activities as well as to his ‘moral’ life. This decree has been officially published in the diocesan bulletin Vrhbosna, 3/2004 p. 293-298.

Jozo again refuses to obey.

[to be continued]

Diane M. Korzeniewski, OCDS said...

[quoted work continued from above on fra Jozo Zovko]

And what happens now? On 9-2-2009, the personal assistant of Jozo in Siroki Brijeg, Vesna Cuzic, informs all Medjugorje-groups, that Jozo, for reasons of ‘health, rest and convalescence, and for renovation of buildings on the island of Badija-Croatia (how ‘logical’: renovating buildings while he is supposed to take a rest…), Jozo will not be available for pilgrims for the rest of the year 2009.

During the annual meeting of the Medjugorje-Guides in March 2009, the provincial, Fr. Ivan Sesar, made known that Jozo had ‘requested for a sabbatical year…’

But rumors say that recently Jozo has been seen for several days in Rome, and that after the severe punishment and exile of Fr. Tomislav Vlasic by the Vatican in 2008, a new commission is now occupying themselves with the ‘Jozo case’.

Jozo’s superiors, who until now, had always supported Jozo’s disobedience, now seem to feel uneasy and therefore exiled Jozo to the small island of Badija, near the island Korcula, thus obeying the demand of 1990 of the Congregation for the Evangelization of the Peoples.

And indeed, in the Croatian Magazine “Nacional” of 24-2-2009 (p. 68-72) appeared a long article, titled: ”Papal War against Medjugorje”. Subtitle: ”The exile of Jozo”.

Furthermore: “Jozo was moved from Siroki Brijeg and left behind on the island Badija for as long as the Papal Commission concerning Medjugorje is pursuing her investigation".

At last Jozo has been banned to a convent, far from Medjugorje, “ordered by Rome and against his own will".

But, as is always the case, the Medjugorje-media are manipulating the naïve Medjugorje-fans and falsify the real motive for his exile.

“Nacional” continues : “Jozo was moved to Badija not because of health reasons, as was officially stated, but exiled by the Franciscan Province.”

“After 18 years of resistance and disobedience, Jozo was compelled to obey a decision of the Holy See since February 1990, whereby Rome confirmed the suspension by Mgr. Zanic in 1989."

At the end of 2008, the administration of the Franciscan Province of Hercegovina decided that Jozo at last should accept the punishment by Rome.

To some close friends Jozo said that he was ‘sent to the desert’.

Many ask themselves why, after 18 years, Jozo has finally obeyed to the decision of the Church Administration. The answer is that very soon the Vatican will start a new commission about Jozo and Medjugorje.


And it is well known that the former Card. Ratzinger, now Pope Benedict XVI, was rather negative about Medjugorje... (see his letter of 22-7-1998).

"Jozo has now decided not to be an obstacle in that process.”

Feast of St Joseph, 19-3-2009
mark waterinckx Belgium

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That's quite a bit of hard data that you will not find on promoter sites.

Diane M. Korzeniewski, OCDS said...

Note: Those dates in Mark's document are in European order so the day is first and the month second.

I should add that it is interesting to note that the departure of Zovko for that island happened about the time that Tomislav Vlasic was being laicized. It took time for that news to bubble out to the public, just like it took several months for the bishops June homily to reach the public.

Tominellay said...

On that point, in his June, 2009, Confirmation homily in Medjugorje, Bishop Peric stated that he had been in Rome discussing the Medjugorje phenomenon with CDF officials in the second half of January, just a couple weeks before Fr. Zovko left for Badija. Coincidence? Possibly...

Anonymous said...

This is from 'mecurious' again. Thank you very much for this information. I was aware of much of it - but completely unaware of the fact that Fr. Zovko was recently ordered to leave the vacinity of Medjugorje.
I went to Medjugorje twice on investigatory trips - was squired around by top officials - and was introduced to and met privately with Fr. Zovko. During the same period, I met with old contacts and a friend inside the CDF. I got the impression at that time, from remarks which were passed to me - that the then Cardinal Ratzinger did not think very positively about Medjugorje. His name was never mentioned nor even hinted at. But I was certain that was where the opinion being passed on to me was coming from.

mecurious

Tominellay said...

The original Croatian-language text of Bishop Peric's letter to Fr. Jozo Zovko dated June 26, 2004, Prot. No. 843/2004, can be found on the Mostar diocese's website:

http://www.cbismo.com/index.php?mod=vijest&vijest=194

Timothy said...

Hi Diane ...

I've commented before on your Medjugorje posts over the years. It concerns me that you seem to have a continued unusual hatred for anything related to Medjugorje and there is no peace nor love nor joy in your writing. Your ego seems so caught up into this whole affair that it can't be good for your soul. You must know that whatever anyone may say or do, the will of God, and Our Lord and Saviour, will be made manifest in the end as no one will be able to thwart the plan of God. Your words will never convince those of us who have been given the grace to be brought by Our Lady to our Lord Jesus Christ through Medjugorje. Likewise, no one will be convinced of Medjugorje unless they have been given such grace. But to get so embroiled in the bitter arguments as you have is to loose oneself like the Pharisees of ancient Israel and like Saul. The fact is the truth of Medjugorje is out of our hands. It never was in our hands. God's truth will prevail regardless of what you or I may believe, say or do about Medjugorje.

Peace and blessings to you ...

Tim

Diane M. Korzeniewski, OCDS said...

Tim writes: It concerns me that you seem to have a continued unusual hatred for anything related to Medjugorje

No. I don't have a hatred for Medjugorje. I have great love for the Church and I am saddened to see the local bishop attacked for presenting facts which are not favorable to Medjugorje.

When people attack the bishop, or hold contempt for him in their hearts, this is not behavior that the Blessed Virgin Mary would condone. She would expect nothing less than filial reverence and obedience for the Apostolic Successor.

and there is no peace nor love nor joy in your writing

Faith is about more than feelings of peace, love and joy. It is about Truth. Peace, love and joy without Truth is merely superficial.

Do you have peace, love and joy in your heart for the Apostolic Successor of Mostar-Duvno?

The movement as a whole has vilified Bishop Zanic, and now Peric. I have seen the bishops calumniated and held in disdain by supporters of Medjugorje. This too is a fruit. I cannot reconcile it with the Mother of God who is a model of humility and obedience. I cannot reconcile the disunity around the world, in the Church, in our parishes and even in some families that has come about due to Medjugorje.

The conversions are wonderful. The voluminous confessions are great and so is devotion to our Eucharistic Lord and Our Lady. These things were also brought about through Magdalen of the Cross. She levitated. She made predictions which came true. She was even consulted by bishops! Yet, decades later she confessed to having made a deal with Satan and had to undergo intense exorcism. Vocations and confessions brought about through it all were valid. God made good out of bad.

How could so much disquiet come from the Queen of Peace? The long list of canonical sanctions against people affiliated with the alleged apparitions of Medjugorje is staggering. These are sanctions handed down through the Church. If you blow-off those sanctions for this reason or that, it is not the local Bishop you have your beef with, but with the Church itself!

You must know that whatever anyone may say or do, the will of God, and Our Lord and Saviour, will be made manifest in the end as no one will be able to thwart the plan of God.

And the will of God will come through Holy Mother Church. If the unthinkable happens and a negative decision comes forth, will you stand with the Church, or with the "gospa"?

But to get so embroiled in the bitter arguments as you have is to loose oneself like the Pharisees of ancient Israel and like Saul. The fact is the truth of Medjugorje is out of our hands. It never was in our hands.

If I understand you correctly, then you are saying it's ok to promote Medjugorje as if Our Lady appeared there, but it's not ok to voice that which questions that authenticity.

It's troubling behavior out of Medjugorje proponents that every objection, which can be backed up by facts obtained through the diocese is met with accusations of being uncharitable.

When I see clear disinformation and distortions of facts being spread in the name of the Queen of Peace against the local Ordinary, I see this as an attack against the Church.

The Holy Spirit has indeed come to rest on this embattled bishop.

God's truth will prevail regardless of what you or I may believe, say or do about Medjugorje.

And I pray that Holy Mother Church's decision will be accepted promptly and with humility.

In Jesus thru Mary!

Diane M. Korzeniewski, OCDS said...

I would like to add that when I see distortions and disinformation in the name of the Queen of Peace, especially with what is offered by the diocese, I see it as an afront to Our Lady.

The true Queen of Peace does not sow disunity.

Tominellay said...

At a time when Pope Benedict XVI is inviting members of the Anglican community to enter full communion with the Catholic Church, the Medjugorje movement seems to invite its believers to oppose unity under the diocesan hierarchy.

http://members.iinet.net.au/~raphael/leo_xiii.html