Wednesday, September 2, 2009

Judgment Day, "Pastoral Correctness", and the Bp Martino Resignation

There is an excellent analysis over at CWNews which looks closely at the sudden resignation of Bp Joseph Martino of Scranton, and his auxiliary - Bp Dougherty.

This is a must read, but first, I want to raise some questions of my own. I truly don't have the answers to these questions, but I believe they ought to be discussed:

If the Fathers of the Church were living today, would the bishops among them be considered pastoral enough to survive their episcopacies? Would they have the support of their brother bishops?

How about the Apostles?

Still better, would Our Lord Jesus Christ be considered pastoral enough by today's standards?

While approaching things in a pastoral manner is indeed very important (I don't want to downplay that), I am wondering who will suffer more on Judgment Day: Bishops who had unshakeable zeal for truth, who were "unpastoral" in their approach, or those who were so pastoral that many of the faithful were scandalized and led into grave error and sin.

We won't even get into the subject of some bishops who have, in the name of "pastoral correctness", tolerated distortions of Catholic teaching to such a degree that it has brought about widespread dissent within their dioceses, and who remain in their posts for many years.

I can't help but wonder if there is a double standard.

Just out of interest, please feel free to add some of the most quotable-quotes from Jesus, the Apostles, or the Fathers of the Church to the combox (keep them brief for space). How about the Doctors? Are there any quotes that would be labeled "pastorally incorrect" by standards apparently in use today?

Here is that analysis: Bishop Martino's Departure - Did he jump or was he pushed? (CWNews)

Please pray for our bishops.

EDITED @11:42 Sept 2, 2009


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6 comments:

crazylikeknoxes said...

That he did not resign because of health problems is most probable, but is there any solid information as to why and/or who motivated the decision?

Diane M. Korzeniewski, OCDS said...

You really need to read the CWNews story, if you haven't.

I'm an amateur at Vatican/USCCB watching, but even I picked up on the strangeness of both bishop and auxiliary having their retirement/resignation accepted on the same day.

I might add that Bp Dougherty looked entirely mortified at that meeting (not to mention what seemed like a tense atmosphere through the official part of the conference, which lightened up during the Q&A).

Diane M. Korzeniewski, OCDS said...

If you did not get to see the presser yesterday, here is a video feed.

Wm said...

Through the intersession and by the merits of Saint John Neumann, let's pray for Bishop Martino. He's still a bishop of the Most Holy Roman Catholic Church and he will in all probability continue to witness to the Truth. Why not send him a short, sweet note expressing your support and admiration. Mark "personal and private" on your correspondence so that it doesn't fall into hands that would otherwise rather not admit such an out-pouring of support.

crazylikeknoxes said...

I did read the CWN story. It offered two possible explanations for the presumably enforced retirement by "informed observers": one that he was "too rough" in his administrative style and the other that he was "simply too conservative." While both explanations are possible, I read nothing in the article that would make one or the other more probable than any other explanation. Personally, I think something more would be necessary to force a successor of the Apostles into retirement. But I am something less than an amateur when it comes to these matters.

Jenni said...

The real question is why Bishop's like him are removed and other bishops that are causing incredible liberal scandal are not? Do the lib. Bishops still weild that much power? Has nothing changed since the departure of Cardinal Bernadine? In my own diocese it seems that the lib. priest have managed to control, to an extent, our Bishop. Shure, they let him be orthodox, but to a point. If any in his admin. cross the line they force him out! This makes me wonder about Cardinal George and even the Vatican Nuncio, Pietro Sambi. Why is it that those who try to remain faithful to the fullness of the Church as so harshly treat for their errors while other (on the other side of things) do not even receive a rebuke? Who took over as anti-pope for Cardinal Bernadine? Did Mahoney? It hardly seems that he is that capable, but maybe he is just that connected. St. Michael, pray for us!!!